SubhanAllah I have found clear proofs of the 12 imams?

And We made them leaders ( Imatain ШЈЩЋЩ®Щ•ЩђЩ…Щ‘ЩЋШ©Щ‹Ы¬ )inviting to the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection, they will not be helped. [28:41]

Of course you’re going to tell me that it is not about your imams (wow we can agree on something) but when it comes to other verses, add a piece of hadeeth here, and a commentary there, a bit of mistranslation won’t hurt? and vola you got yourself a ”shia” verse
Anyway, this is in response to MOMIN

[Quran 28:5] And We wished to be Gracious to those who were being depressed in the land, to make them Imams (in Faith) and make them heirs,

Not about your imams, this is about the pharaoh who had treated his people poorly and the verses speaks about them overcoming this opression. Note that this is about A LOT of people NOT just ”12” .

here are verse before it and after verse 5.

Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections depressing a group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (4) And We wished to be gracious to those who were being depressed in the land to make them leaders (in faith) and make them heirs (5) To establish a firm place for them in the land and to show Pharaoh, Haman, and their hosts, at their hands, the very things against which they were taking precautions. (6)


[Quran 32:24] And We appointed, from among them, Imams, giving guidance under Our command, so long as they persevered with patience and continued to have faith in Our Signs.

Lol again not about your Imams, it speaks about the children of Israel which has nothing to do with your imams, even if it did then it would be implying that your imams are not infalliable because it says ”so long as they continued to have faith” which is contradicting the whole concept of being ”infalliable”

here are verses before and after verse 24

We did indeed aforetime give the Book to Moses: be not then in doubt of its reaching (thee): and We made it a guide to the Children of Israel. (23) And We appointed, from among them, Leaders, giving guidance under Our command, so long as they persevered with patience and continued to have faith in Our Signs. (24) Verily thy Lord will judge between them on the Day of Judgement, in the matters wherein they differ (among themselves). (25)


[Quran 17:71] One day We shall call together all human beings with their (respective) Imams: those who are given their record in their right hand will read it (with pleasure), and they will not be dealt with unjustly in the least.

Again this has nothing to do with the imams, the verse speaks about the records of good and bad deeds in which the word ”imameehim” is referring to a book.


Do you not realize that the Quran mentions things as simple as alcohol, swine, gambling are all forbidden CLEARLY and yet something so fundamental to your beliefs, it fails to be clear on?

And finally if it is not from the Quran that the 12 imams are mentioned then it is from hadith? Which you quote from the very books you yourselves reject? (ie sahih Bukhari and sahih Muslim) Why would something so fundamental not be mentioned in the Quran but rather in hadiths? Don’t tell me such things as how to pray in the Quran is not mentioned because prayer is mentioned MANY times in the Quran so when we refer to the hadiths and the hadiths speak about prayer it is not a new concept.

These are the delusions you live by.

The ones who the Shee’ah claim as their Imaams are free of them. ‘Alee Radhiallaahu anhu did not call to what the Rawaafidh are upon, neither did Hasan or Hussayn radhiallaahu anhum.

—- Wallahi I did not want to answer this question for fear that I would misinterpret the verse incorrectly and be held accountable as such. This interpretation is not MY interpretation as you have done. It is clear however whom the verse is reffering to. If the guide is distinct from the warner then precisely whom is the guide and why did Allah (swt) give a reference to the warner and not a reference to the guide/s? How can someone who is hidden give guidance? It does not make sense how one can have the responsiblity of guiding the people yet be hidden. Every people has had it’s guide (ours is the Prophet, we are his Ummah we shall be raised with him) and the Prophet (s) is only a warner, (he does not produce miracles).

Good for you, why are you so late in finding that?
Those who believe in the last day, must believe in all things they cannot see, and things they can see.
There is very few that can see and are allowed to see.

Islam never divided, or changed. People did that AstugfarAllah and Al hamdoullah in the same breath.
Everything has a line…BLOOD LINE!

Human nature is if someone calls me bad, I call him more bader words. Then if he again reply in greater, then I tell the greatest. So on. But Islam teaches us to resist evil with good. Even if it be Mushrikoon (Polyethists) make fun of us, don’t make fun of their idols back, because they are in reply telling bad about Almighty Allah, who is their Lord and our Lord. Likewise, Imaams are free from what some believe about them. We ought to speak the truth and we are to stand for it.

Isa (Jesus Christ(pbuh) is not responsible for what Christians calling him for worship. Nor any saints or Wali of Allah is responsible for someone calling them in supplication. Nor Ali (r.a), Hassan, Hussain or Zainul Abideen (May Allah be pleased with the all).

do we care? go get lost

what r u going to answer on the day of judgement?

may god guide u and all the ppl who talk about shia’s

@ simplicity

did prophet do not say that i am leaving two things among you to follow , QURAN and AHL E BAIT ( 12 IMAMS )


Notice the similarity b/w Jesus and Imams.

They are the master deceivers of tafseer.

The imaams are free of the lies which the shia have invented against them


lol @ the title of your question


Now Shias &amp: unity fans are gonnna cry : &quot: dont twist quranic words’

But its ok for them to do so, lol.

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