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Jesus and Dionysus claims and counter claims?


I have to admit, I looked at the Dionysus story and can’t see any real comparisons. It seems people surmise the stories to form a comparison that doesn’t exist upon close inspection. Reply with claims and counter claims only.

Didn’t they also find convincing links with Horus and Astronomy? They’re both very convincing but they can’t all be correct.

(there’s also a startling personality difference)

i expect you already know a lot of Jesus.

guess who’s here:

Dionysus or Bacchus is thought of as being Greek, but he is a remake of the Egyptian god Osiris, whose cult extended throughout a large part of the ancient world for thousands of years. Dionysuss religion was well-developed in Thrace, northeast of Greece, and Phrygia, which became Galatia, where Attis also later reigned. Although a Dionysus is best remembered for the rowdy celebrations in his name, which was Latinized as Bacchus, he had many other functions and contributed several aspects to the Jesus character:

–Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger.
–He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles.
–He rode in a triumphal procession on an ***.
–He was a sacred king killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification.
–Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25.
–He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine.
–He was called King of Kings and God of Gods.
–He was considered the Only Begotten Son, Savior, Redeemer, Sin Bearer, Anointed One, and the Alpha and Omega.
–He was identified with the Ram or Lamb.
–His sacrificial title of Dendrites or Young Man of the Tree intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified.

In the Egyptian myth, Horus and his once-and-future Father, Osiris, are frequently interchangeable, as in I and my Father are one. Concerning Osiris, Walker says:

Of all savior-gods worshiped at the beginning of the Christian era, Osiris may have contributed more details to the evolving Christ figure than any other. Already very old in Egypt, Osiris was identified with nearly every other Egyptian god and was on the way to absorbing them all. He had well over 200 divine names. He was called the Lord of Lords, King of Kings, God of Gods.
He was the Resurrection and the Life, the Good Shepherd, Eternity and Everlastingness, the god who made men and women to be born again. Budge says, From first to last, Osiris was to the Egyptians the god-man who suffered, an died, and rose again, and reigned eternally in heaven.
They believed that they would inherit eternal life, just as he had done . . .
Osiriss coming was announced by Three Wise Men: the three stars Mintaka, Anilam, and Alnitak in the belt of Orion, which point directly to Osiriss star in the east, Sirius (Sothis), significator of his birth . . .
Certainly Osiris was a prototypical Messiah, as well as a devoured Host. His flesh was eaten in the form of communion cakes of wheat, the plant of Truth. . . . The cult of Osiris contributed a number of ideas and phrases to the Bible. The 23rd Psalm copied an Egyptian text appealing to Osiris the Good Shepherd to lead the deceased to the green pastures and still waters of the nefer-nefer land, to restore the soul to the body, and to give protection in the valley of the shadow of death (the Tuat). The Lords Prayer was prefigured by an Egyptian hymn to Osiris-Amen beginning, O Amen, O Amen, who are in heaven. Amen was also invoked at the end of every prayer.

As Col. James Chruchward naively exclaims, The teachings of Osiris and Jesus are wonderfully alike. Many passages are identically the same, word for word.

Osiris was also the god of the vine and a great travelling teacher who civilized the world. He was the ruler and judge of the dead. In his passion, Osiris was plotted against and killed by Set and the 72. Like that of Jesus, Osiriss resurrection served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.

Osiriss son or renewed incarnation, Horus, shares the following in common with Jesus:

–Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Merion December 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
–His earthly father was named Seb (Joseph).
–He was of royal descent.
–At at 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized having disappeared for 18 years.
–Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by Anup the Baptizer (John the Baptist), who was decapitated.
–He had 12 desciples, two of who were his witnesses and were named Anup and Aan (the two Johns).
–He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus (El-Osiris), from the dead.
–Horus walked on water.
–His personal epithet was Iusa, the ever-becoming son of Ptah, the Father. He was thus called Holy Child.
–He delivered a Sermon on the Mount and his followers recounted the Sayings of Iusa.
–Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
–He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.
–He was also the Way, the Truth, the Light, Messiah, Gods Anointed Son, the Son of Man, the Good Shepherd, the Lamb of God, the Word made flesh, the Word of Truth, etc.
–He was the Fisher and was associated with the Fish (Ichthys), Lamb and Lion.
–He came to fulfill the Law.
–Horus was called the KRST, or Anointed One.
–Like Jesus, Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years.

Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago [1500 years before Jesus alleged advent] on the walls of the Temple at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and Adoration of Horus, with Thoth announcing to the Virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus: with Kneph the Holy Ghost, impregnating the virgin: and with the infant being attended bh three kings, or magi, bearing gifts. In addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isisthe original Madonna and Child.

supposedly there are all these insane correlations btw Jesus, Dionysus, Horus, and whoever else, I forget. But like they’re all born on Dec 25, etc etc. The thing is, I don’t know anything about Horus, but I know a little bit about Dionysus, and those claims seem to conflict with the information I had previously known about him.

There are many parallels between Jesus and Dionysus, Horus, Mithras, Osiris, Krishna etc. That doesn’t mean the stories were copied from each other. They are different manifestations of an archetype. God keeps repeating himself until we learn.

Read: Rene Girard on the essential differences between pagan myth and biblical revelation– especially his book &quot:The Scapegoat.&quot:

i think of I delivered this situation up earlier in yet another question awhile lower back. in accordance to Ovid, Dionysian non secular rituals have been compulsive in lots of areas of Greece, and individuals have been in lots of situations killed for refusing to take part. apart from, if everyone denied that Dionysius replaced into the real and expert sone of Zeus, they have been additionally killed. there replaced right into a touch solid factional dispute between the Greeks between people who claimed Apollo because of the fact the real son of Zeus (Apollonians) and people who claimed Dionysius because of the fact the real son of Zeus (Dionysians). The Apollonians esteemed reason and gaining information of as a thank you to understand non secular truths. the Apollonians did no longer forbid the inclusion of different gods as area of the non secular existence. The Apollonians may be slightly like the Romans Stoics The Dionysians required a magical, ecstatic adventure (comparable to the Pentecostal adventure) as a key to religious certainty, and forbade any god to be located earlier Dionysius. There rituals promoted frenzied emotion and fanaticism. reason and good judgment have been appeared on as spiritually ineffective. The early Christians had a matching view of effective judgment &quot:For the know-how of this international is foolishness with God.&quot: I Corinthians 3:19 Dionysius replaced into the God of Wine and that i’ve got self assurance Jesus’ first miracle replaced into to instruct water into wine. apart from, on the final supper Jesus raised a chalice of wine and mentioned, &quot:And taking the chalice, he gave thank you, and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this. For that’s my blood of the recent testomony, which would be shed for many unto remission of sins.&quot: Matthew 26:27-28 There are comparable references to wine interior the Messianic verses of the previous testomony besides. &quot:the Lord hath trodden the winepress for the virgin daughter of Juda.&quot: Lamentation a million:15

I thought that the Alpha Draconians brought the dinosaurs here to Earth.

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