Do these people have their priorities mixed up?
Right now they do, thats for sure…because of the prop 8 in california.
The thought of going to church in her southern California LDS ward makes Carol Oldham cry. She can’t face one more sermon against same-sex marriage. She can’t tolerate the glares at the rainbow pin on her lapel.
Oldham, a lifelong Mormon, is troubled by her church’s zeal in supporting a California ballot initiative that would define marriage as between one man and one woman. She feels the church is bringing politics into her sanctuary.
":It has tainted everything for me,": Oldham said, choking up during a telephone interview. ":I am afraid to go there and hear people say mean things about gay people. I am in mourning. I dont know how long it can last..
The LDS Church’s campaign to pass Proposition 8 represents its most vigorous and widespread political involvement since the late 1970s, when it helped defeat the Equal Rights Amendment. It even departs from earlier efforts on behalf of traditional marriage, in which members felt more free to decide their level of involvement.
This time, LDS leaders have tapped every resource, including the church’s built-in phone trees, e-mail lists and members’ willingness to volunteer and donate money. Many California members consider it a directive from God and have pressured others to participate. Some leaders and members see it as a test of faith and loyalty.
Those who disagree with the campaign say they feel unwelcome in wards that have divided along political lines.
I asked a question a while back about comparing the LDS church being against gay marriage, and still at the same time believe in POLYGAMY in the highest level of mormon heaven (for eternity) I was told I was a lesbain and I was excommunicated for that….LOL!
Thats crazy talk…Just because I was asking how they compare the two types that ":offend": some people???
and as far as aking for money from members….YES they do.
Mormons have been active participants in the campaign both as volunteers and financial contributors, giving an estimated 43 percentвЂ”some $8.4 millionвЂ”to the Proposition 8 campaign, according to the Web site mormonsfor8.com. There are about 770,000 Mormon church members in California, but Mormons from outside the state have been encouraged to give money and time to help pass the measure.
if you knew how much money and time is spent on helping out relief groups and projects it would make your head spin. and just as a side note, the church itself did not donate any ":church": funds- ie any money received from tithes. It just really encouraged the members to be active in the prop in either funds, time or phone calls. here is a link to CURRENT humanitarian projects that the LDS church is either helping in funding or in charge of and has members donating time also
you can click on the region and then you can choose a country and it tells you exactly what projects are going on.
just a quick cap by region, because it would be way too much to list it by country
North America- 461 current projects
South America- 289
Europe – 237
The Pacific- 43
That is a grand total of – 2,119 CURRENT projects
also the church has donated over 1 billion dollars to relief efforts worldwide just in the last 10 years. thats on top of the probably millions/billions of dollars worth in donated items from the members and from the church.
You have no idea how much money is spent helping the sick and the poor. A few years ago, I was the ward financial clerk and we helped many of our members who were struggling with hospital bills and rent. That was just in my ward. One of probably 15,000 in the world. There’s plenty of money going to the poor and needy in the church.
we do not ":fight": against gays, we just dont think that it is morally right, and we were also some of the first people to send supplies to hurricane katrina victims, so, that goes against your poverty remark.
The LDS church takes in 6-8 Billion in tithing. There is no accounting for what they do with it. They refuse to say.
There are reports of hundreds of millions spent per year on charity, but that only amounts to about 3 cents on every tithing dollar.
They have managed to fund a multi billion dollar shopping mall in Salt Lake City.
The members are indeed charitable and organized in many disasters. And the members are the ones funding the gay hate in California, not the LDS church itself. The church just tells them where to spend their own money.
You only think that because one is receiving more publicity than the other.
NO. I am not Mormon, but they are very good at charity. They are the first to help when disaster strikes. They not only give food etc, but show up to rebuild and clean up. Give credit where credit is due!
Can you show me where you got these stats from before you make these accusations?
You make a statement as if it were true and it isn’t.
Where’s your proof?
The church spends millions on poverty and social help.
The church doesn’t ":fight against gays":.
They are simply against gay marriage.
False premise- already well refuted.
No, they didn’t mix their priorities up, they are trying to be Christian, not good/moral.