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Will the BEST project kill the global warming denier myths about surface temperatures?

The Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature Study is a new, thorough analysis of the surface temperature record, taking into account all criticisms leveled by skeptics. Two big names involved are Richard Muller, who has unfortunately spread a lot of disinformation about hide the decline recently, and Judith Curry, a darling of the skeptic movement. A number of prominent skeptics have praised the project, like Fred Singer and Anthony Watts.

The group has started working on a draft paper based on their preliminary analysis. Muller described their findings as follows:

“We are seeing substantial global warming…None of the effects raised by the [skeptics] is going to have anything more than a marginal effect on the amount of global warming.”

Ken Caldeira, who has seen the draft paper, said:

Their preliminary results sit right within the results of NOAA, NASA, and HadCRU, confirming that prior analyses were correct in every way that matters. Their results confirm the reality of global warming and support in all essential respects the historical temperature analyses of the NOAA, NASA, and HadCRU.

Since the project is run by and has received praise from skeptics and lukewarmers, or whatever you want to call them, and has once again confirmed the results of the other scientific groups like NASA GISS, do you think this will finally kill all the denier myths about the surface temperature record?

Lets not jump the gun, these are preliminary results so they have not confirmed anything.

Muller is a scientists who supports the position of the IPCC, but I respect and trust him. His data and codes will be of public record for anybody who want to audit him. If his temperature record matches that of HadCru and GISS I will respect that. But what if the final results do not match that of GISS or HadCru? What if the warming trend is less, or the mid century cooling was greater. Will warmers respect that? Or will they start attacking his credibility?


Vampire man.

You say you do not like what if questions. If you click on my link to climateprogress, Romm is highly critical of Muller. Now Romm is dancing with joy. I find this dishonest. Conversely, if Watt were to attack Muller because he does no like the results, I would also find this dishonest. All I am asking is for believers to do the same.

Edit: It appears Joe Romm has once again jumped the gun. Anthony Watt is one of the biggest critics of UHI and the temperature record. This is what he said about the results of the BEST record:

And, I’m prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong. I’m taking this bold step [providing my surfacestations data to them] because the method has promise. So let’s not pay attention to the little yippers who want to tear it down before they even see the results. I haven’t seen the global result, nobody has, not even the home team…


Global warming is happening. Deniers need to wake up and stop pretending that nothing is happening to our world.

I would suggest that we wait to see their final conclusion, although anything which has the name &quot:Berkeley&quot: in it has to be suspect in my opinion…

The global warming believers don’t understand the deniers. We don’t deny there is climate change. We deny that man is the main cause of climate change. We believe that climate change is a naturally occurring event. The temperature of the earth has gone up and down all throughout history. Ice ages melted before there were cars or factories. We don’t have a problem with trying to come up with cleaner energy. We have a problem with the government creating very expensive agencies that will waste huge amounts of money. We have a problem with the government telling us what kind of light bulb we can use. We have a problem with the government forcing cap and trade.

Edit: Guess what the biggest green house gas is? There is one that it much bigger than CO2.
It’s water vapor.

Obama’s &quot:science Czar&quot: John Holdren predicted back in the 1970s that a billion people would die from global COOLING! He said that government should mandate urgent measures to control population, including the possibility of involuntary birth control measures such as forced sterilization.

Question for the believers: Why won’t Al Gore publicly debate any scientists on the issue of man made global warming?

It speaks volumes about the global warming myth that the primary focus has now become to silence anybody who dares apply actual scientific study to the matter..

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