this lady comes here and says she is feeling drawn to the Catholic church
she is a non Christian and feeling an urge to persue what her heart is telling her
she is met with people telling her it is a cult , it is wrong etc
surely the fact that she is being drawn to Christianity is what matters no ?
shouldnt she be recieving good wishes and help from Christians … any Christians
shouldnt you be rejoicing that someone is being drawn to Christ ?
or are you so closed minded to even your own faith that any church but your church is the wrong church ?
I just don’t get it
personally as a non Christian I was encouraging her to follow her heart , even though it is not my religion at all
A Christian is someone who has chosen to believe that Jesus is The Son of God and that He died on The Cross, for their sins. They have asked Him into their heart, spirit, soul and life and choose to trust Him every day! They read His Word and trust The Holy Spirit to Lead and Guide them through the maze that makes up this life on earth! This is the simplest explanation I can think of!
There are many denominations it is true and each is full of people who ‘pay lip service’ (hatch/match/despatch) to being a Christian! Each is full of people who want the Blessings, without the ‘spade work’ that goes with it (not wanting to allow The Holy Spirit to Guide them in the things that they, as individuals, need to give up – what is a temptation to me, may not be a temptation to you and vice versa)! Each is full of people who want a real, vibrant relationship (and have it!) with their LORD and Saviour, Jesus Christ!
ONLY GOD CAN SEE INTO THE HEART AND KNOW HOW TRUE AN INDIVIDUAL’S BELIEF IN JESUS IS!
When we get to Heaven, there will be no ‘ghettos’, we will all live side by side, as one family! Which is why it is sad, when on earth one denomination accuses another one! NO one denomination has all the answers! NO one denomination gets everything right all of the time! Why? Because they are finite, humanity gets in the way continually – only God is Infinite!
A real relationship based on Faith in Jesus, is totally different to ‘religion’ I can assure you!
Whilst I would agree that God Warns us to be wary of trusting our ‘feelings’, because they can be misleading and swayed by the moment! I would venture to suggest that when Jesus takes up residence in a heart and spirit, then it IS important to listen to both of these! Because where Jesus IS, there can be NO deception! Learning to ‘listen’ with our spiritual ‘ears’
to His Still, Small Voice, saying ":This is my way for you, walk in it!": cannot happen over night! It takes time and is blended with reading God’s Holy Word (The Bible) in our ‘quiet times’!
To blame ‘religion’ for all that is wrong and the atrocities practised in its name is WRONG! You will find that if they were honest (even though they probably wouldn’t admit it if dragged over hot coals), people who use violence to further their ’cause’, are simply violent minded people! If religion was suddenly out of the equation, they would simply find another excuse for their bloodletting!
Obviously there are times when there is no other way (as in 1939 when we had to stand against Hitler and the evil that he represented and unleashed upon europe) but in those instances elected governments make that decision for good reason !
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD SO DON’T BLAME HIM!!!
I would say that the lady in question should go where The Holy Spirit is drawing her – HE Knows where He wants her to be and why He wants her there! She simply needs to keep her eyes fixed on Jesus and trust Him and He will do the rest!
I think that the lady was very blessed to have you listen to her and encourage her as you did! May God Bless you for it!
She has the right to follow the Religion she so chooses.
James the less, now you think she’s being a bigot and foolish just because she keeps an open mind? I think she understands more than you do. you just think you understand what Christianity is all about, but that doesn’t mean you’re right.
I don’t care what anyone believes. I think everyone should be given freedom and knowledge to choose their own path. I am a Christian. I feel that is the right one..at least for me. I do not feel I have to follow the teaching of MEN of the church. I think that all you can to is follow your heart or you will never find peace in your life. I would rejoice if any one found joy from their choice of beliefs .. even if it is atheism. It is a personal decision between God and yourself. Or yourself, in the case of atheism.
Personally, if I felt that ":church": was a cult, I would discourage it, or at least encourage further investigation. But Catholicism a cult? Come on now! You people are just silly! Heaven’s Gate, Jonestown, even Jehovah’s Witnesses, but Catholics?!
Not all churches ,and I use that term loosely, are created equal
There is only one true church and it is not in a building or an organization like Catholicism or Methodist etc… The true church follows the commandants of God and has the testimony of Jesus . I challenge all that read my answer to find out what the testimony of Jesus is…
That’s the sad thing about most religious people. They’re usually the lowest common denominator of minds.
I had a really religious friend once who used to fight with me over the fact that I was atheist. We’d have long arguments about it. Then just a few days ago, he calls me up and tells me he doesn’t believe it anymore. He said he’s still open to the idea of God, but being a scientist, he has no reason to believe it without proof.
Matthew 7:13 Go in by the narrow door: for wide is the door and open is the way which goes to destruction, and great numbers go in by it.
14 For narrow is the door and hard the road to life, and only a small number make discovery of it.
15 Be on the watch for false prophets, who come to you in sheepвЂ™s clothing, but inside they are cruel wolves…..19 Every tree which does not give good fruit is cut down and put in the fire. 20 So by their fruits you will get knowledge of them. 21 В¶ Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will go into the kingdom of heaven: but he who does the pleasure of my Father in heaven. 22 A great number will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, were we not prophets in your name, and did we not by your name send out evil spirits, and by your name do works of power? 23 And then will I say to them, I never had knowledge of you: go from me, you workers of evil. 24 Everyone, then, to whom my words come and who does them, will be like a wise man who made his house on a rock:
25 And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house, but it was not moved: because it was based on the rock. 26 And everyone to whom my words come and who does them not, will be like a foolish man who made his house on sand:
27 And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house: and it came down and great was its fall.
28 And it came about, when Jesus had come to the end of these words, that the people were surprised at his teaching, 29 for he was teaching as one having authority, and not as their scribes.
Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
There can be only one.
As you say you just don’t get it.
You completely don’t understand but yet you choose to make judgements from ignorance.
As a ‘non Christian’ you are not in a position to encourage her to something you obviously don’t know or understand.
It could be tempting to wonder why you don’t want what you are encouraging others to? Does it smack of hypocrisy?
You could be accused of bigotry and foolishness and of being judgemental.
If you are, you deserve it.
Maybe a little humility wouldn’t go amiss?
Its the nature of Protestantism. They are the most intolerant bunch of people I’ve ever seen or met. Even the name of Protestantism implies emotional immaturity. Its like a bunch of children say ":Wahhh you won’t let me into your club the way I want it to be so I’m going to make my own, nyah":.
I don’t like Catholicism either but they’ve learned their lesson to butt out of other peoples lives, even though it took a very long time for them to learn it.
If that is what she wants, then that is alright by me. I don’t try to push my beliefs off onto anyone else. So I don’t get it either.