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Christians who claim they aren’t under mosaic law, can you please remind me what Hebrews 10:28 says?


I’m so sick and tired of all these Christians who keep claiming that the Old Testament doesn’t apply anymore. They obviously haven’t been reading the Bible. NOWHERE does it say the Old Testament is only for Jews! Please someone show me where in the Bible does it say Since Jesus is dead, you don’t have to follow the old rules anymore. Go on, SHOW ME…after you’ve failed, please remind yourself what Hebrews 10:28 says.

Thank You.

You are absolutely right. Although some don’t agree with me (probably makes me unpopular – yeah, like that affects me LOL), some Christians love to deny the Old Testament laws (the &quot:because grace negates it&quot: belief) because it does give some the excuse to do what they want, right? – but that doesn’t make a Christian any better than the ones who reject Christ, now does it?- IN NO WAY am I implying that we should all be perfect without sin, (because God KNOWS I’m not!!), I am saying that we need to all admit that we are sinners and face it! The law does apply because without the law, we could not be conscious of sin. And without sin, what did Jesus die for? It all applies. The law is evident in a Christian who lives by them – because we follow Christ who died because of us – who are incapable of being perfect and still sin… But because Christ died for our sins – we are saved by grace, not by works…

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 2:12
All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.

Romans 3:20
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law: rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Romans 5:13
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.

Romans 6:13-15
New International Version (NIV)
13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life: and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

Basically, the New testament says this – DO NOT SIN (go against the law that was given) BUT OBEY GOD’S LAWS because your Savior died because of your sins (that are evident through the LAW)..

I hope that last part makes sense… 🙂 I think you get the idea.. 😀

Peace and blessings to you!

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&quot:I’m STILL waiting for this magic verse that negates old testament laws. tick toc tick toc&quot:

I’m sorry to say that many people don’t do the research necessary to understand what they believe. It is unfortunate – It’s a &quot:♬ because my pastor tells me so ♬&quot: mentality that makes Christians like me look bad. There are many false teachers out there that spew outdated information, and it has really done some Christ followers a disservice. I wish it could be changed, however, on both sides of the fence, there are people who just value their opinion-and to them, the rest are dumb. They forget that Christianity is not about what we believe – it is about who we believe in! God is in charge. And that is it. Peace to you!

Jehovah gave the nation of Israel the Law, with its many features. Regarding them, the apostle Paul wrote: “They were legal requirements pertaining to the flesh and were imposed until the appointed time to set things straight.” (Hebrews 9:10) When the Law led a remnant of Israelites to accept Jesus as the Messiah, or Christ, it had fulfilled its purpose. Thus, Paul declared: “Christ is the end of the Law.”—Romans 10:4: Galatians 3:19-25: 4:4, 5.
Does this mean that the Law is not binding upon us today? Actually, the vast majority of humankind never were under the Law, as the psalmist explained: “[Jehovah] is telling his word to Jacob, his regulations and his judicial decisions to Israel. He has not done that way to any other nation: and as for his judicial decisions, they have not known them.” (Psalm 147:19, 20) When God established the new covenant on the basis of Jesus’ sacrifice, even the nation of Israel was no longer under obligation to obey the Law. (Galatians 3:13: Ephesians 2:15: Colossians 2:13, 14, 16)

The Law was God’s gift through Moses. So Paul reminds his readers that if unrepentant violators of that divine Law received capital punishment, death, how much more deserving of punishment are those who contemptuously neglect God’s greater gift through Jesus Christ, the Greater Moses.
Revelation 21:8: Deuteronomy 13:6-10: 17:2-7.

But read verses 11-18…we now live under grace. We’re not saying that the Old Testament does not apply anymore. It does. The Mosaic Law does not though because we are now under the disposition of grace. You have to read the whole Bible, not just select verses. Matthew 5:17-18 says that Jesus did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. The Old Testament is still God’s word, whether or not the law applies to us today. Jesus fulfilled it by dying on the cross, which is how we are now living under grace. We no longer have to offer sacrifices and things like that. The Old Testament does hold good principles which apply to Christians today.

Ok, I’m sure you’re not talking of the ten commandments because even though they are considered mosaic laws: They were written by God and given to moses. Moses was merely the messenger/mediator on that. But there are about 600 other mosaic laws ranging from tattoos to stoning a adulterer. Wow great question.

(Deuteronomy 5:1-3) And Moses proceeded to call all Israel and to say to them: “Hear, O Israel, the regulations and the judicial decisions that I am speaking in YOUR ears today, and YOU must learn them and be careful to do them. 2 Jehovah our God concluded a covenant with us in Ho′reb. 3 It was not with our forefathers that Jehovah concluded this covenant, but with us, all those of us alive here today. (these laws including the 10 big ones were for Israel/Jews and this scripture shows it was for those of that day and time).

(Galatians 3:19-24) Why, then, the Law? It was added to make transgressions manifest, until the seed (JESUS) should arrive to whom the promise had been made: and it was transmitted through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20В Now there is no mediator where only one person is concerned, but God is only one. 21В Is the Law, therefore, against the promises of God? May that never happen! For if a law had been given that was able to give life, righteousness would actually have been by means of law. 22В But the Scripture delivered up all things together to the custody of sin, that the promise resulting from faith toward Jesus Christ might be given to those exercising faith. 23В However, before the faith arrived, we were being guarded under law, being delivered up together into custody, looking to the faith that was destined to be revealed.

(Galatians 3:24) Consequently the Law has become our tutor leading to Christ, that we might be declared righteous due to faith.

(Galatians 3:25) But now that the faith has arrived, we are no longer under a tutor.

Notice that in the 24th verse tutor is what the law became and in the 25th it states we are no longer under a tutor due to faith in Jesus Christ. Not his death. But by all means we are under Gods laws of the 10 commandments. I believe that is the laws Hebrews 10:28 is talking about.

I have enjoyed studying up on your question and thank you for such a great question, pretty cool.

Hebrews 10:1
The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming–not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.

Colossians 2:17
These are a shadow of the things that were to come: the reality, however, is found in Christ.

Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

We aren’t under Mosaic laws. Actually, no one, and I mean no one, follows the Mosaic laws any more. If they did, can you imagine the backlash at stoning homosexuals, constant animal sacrifices, and a myriad of other laws that simply won’t fit in a 21st century world.

Of course, your question isn’t whether the Mosaic laws are dated, but rather should we continue to follow them based on scripture alone? Is there evidence that indeed we are freed from the curse of the law? Of course there is. First off, we have the report of the first apostolic council who chose only four things for Gentile believers to follow (Acts 15): “For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication: if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell.”

Secondly, we have the testimony of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself when He said (Luke 5), &quot:And no one puts new wine into old wineskins: otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled out, and the skins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins. And no one, after drinking old wine wishes for new: for he says, ‘The old is good enough.’”

Honestly, do you think the Lord of heaven and earth was really that concerned about wineskins? No, but there is something deeper here. What is the new wine but the New Covenant. And what is the new wineskins but the freedom from the curse of the law.

I praise God daily I am not constrained to follow the Old Covenant. I am surprised you are having such a difficult time grasping the truth of the New Testament.

&quot:Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses.&quot:

The footnote for this verse says: These verses argue from the lesser to the greater (compare 2:1-4: 9:14). In the Mosaic Law, the death penalty was given to those who blasphemed God or who who worshiped other deities.

Nothing in there that says that we are bound to the old covenant laws or ideas. If you’re looking for the &quot:Magic Verse&quot:, try paying attention to what Jesus did. He said the law would not pass til all were fulfilled, that is, what God sent him to do. In John he is recorded as saying &quot:It is done!&quot:, meaning, that he had finished all God had sent him to do. In other words, all had passed.

I AM ONE OF JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES – Christ is the end of the Law. Let no one judge you on festivals. etc. Keep these necessary things….. – Acts 15 Almost the whole book of Hebrews where it shows that the Law Covenant was a picture of Christ’s new arrangement, death, etc. Christ instituting the New Covenant Christ came to fulfill the Law Peter’s vision of the &quot:clean&quot: and &quot:unclean&quot: animals Baptism of Cornelius and family There is neither Jew nor Gentile, male nor female, etc And there are so many more. These were the ones I thought of at the spur of a moment.

Are Old Testament Laws Still Binding on Christians?
Christians often wonder, Are Old Testament laws still in force?

The New Testament gives two basic answers to this question: Yes, and no. Some verses indicate continuity, and others indicate change. Some verses maintain the validity of the law: others describe it as having been superseded by Christ.

If we look at one group of verses, we might conclude that we have to keep all OT (Old Testament) laws. If we look at another group of verses, we might conclude that they are all done away. Both answers have scriptural support and validity, so we need to look at both sides of the question.

Let’s start with an emphasis on continuity. A passage like Matthew 5:17-19 can be used to argue that all OT laws are still in force. Jesus didn’t do away with any of God’s laws. Rather, he emphasized that we ought to obey God not only in our actions, but also in our hearts. We have to keep every OT law in the spirit, in its attitude and purpose. God’s laws are written in our hearts and minds (Heb. 8:10). They are internalized, so we should want to keep them. Hebrews 8:10 is a quote of Jeremiah 31:31-33, one could argue, and the laws that Jeremiah had in mind were the laws that were valid in his day: the old covenant laws. They were all given by God.

If this line of reasoning is correct, our love for God will motivate us to be circumcised, to keep the Jubilee year and sabbatical years. We will be diligent to avoid all forms of uncleanness, and we will wear phylacteries and only pure fabrics. We will offer sacrifices, not only for sin but also for fellowship offerings and thank offerings. When Jeremiah described the kingdom of God, old covenant customs were included. This is what Jeremiah meant.

I’ll show you if you’ll first show me where it says that a person born, raised, and living in – Oh, say for instance, France, is obligated to keep the laws of Germany, and if broken, the German police can arrest him.

Jesus isn’t dead – He’s alive. He conquered death, hell and the grave.
Scripture says that even though we are NOT obligated to the Law, that doesn’t give us the right to go on sinning.

Also, &quot:those who LIVE by Law shall be JUDGED (condemned) by Law&quot: and &quot:if you keep the entire Law, but break in even one point, you’re guilty of the entire Law.&quot:

The problem is that boneheads like you (using your own words) seem to think that you can CLAIM to live by the Law, and then, when you BREAK that Law, you don’t have to pay the penalty!

That’s what Law is all about, after all.

Law cannot forgive.
Law cannot show mercy.
Law cannot reconcile you back to God.
Law cannot make you WANT to obey the Law.
Law cannot change a heart.

The ONLY thing Law can do is condemn you for breaking it.

Now go through JUST the 10 commandments (even though you are obligated to keep all 613 Laws), but just look at the 10 commandments, and tell me – have you kept each and every one of them 100% perfectly, 100% of the time, 100% of your life? If not, &quot:those who LIVE by the Law shall be condemned by the Law&quot:

So, you go right ahead and make your boast in the Law, and watch it condemn you for having broken it – not just once, but many, MANY times, while I fall on the mercy of God through Jesus Christ. (Honestly, only a bonehead would try to use the Law to justify his sins when he’s already guilty!)

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