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any thoughts on the statement: &quot:Satan has always been the best friend of the church&quot:?


In my opinion, it’s one of the truest statements ever made. What would the church be without Satan? The church needs it’s members to be frightened. It keeps them from thinking and realizing how rediculous the whole claim is. Honestly, Christians, would you abstain form pre-marital sex, drugs, and fun in general if there was no threat of hell? You can say oyu would, but I doubt it.

In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.

The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man’s challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of Gods plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.

Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God’s opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God’s opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.

Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.

Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It’s meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.

Love and blessings
don

Over-generalizing. Yes, many people over the centuries have been kept in line through fear of Hell (although the heaven and hell decision comes from God so really putting on the blame on Satan is in itself exaggerating), but many people also honestly believe in Christianity, find a possitive message it, and even (especially in modern times) diminish Satan’s role in their personal theology.

As a non-Christian, I think your statement about doubting people would abstain from things without the threat of hell is rather obnoxious. I don’t believe in any hell-like place, but I’ve never taken drugs, and I believe I’ve done a fairly good job of avoiding unethical behavior. There are plenty of people who abstain from pre-marital sex or sex at all for reasons other than the threat of eternal punishment.

You get a star.
But taken Satan OUT of the equasion, our LOVE for God should prompt TRUE Christians to do just what you’ve mentioned.

That is why the living bible reads at 2 tim3:1 &quot:but know this, Timothy, that in the last days it will be &quot:DIFFICULT TO BE A CHRISTIAN&quot:.

Christian means Christ – like. Being a follower of Christ. He would Never do any of the things you mentioned above, right? So — then it would be more appropriate to say, who are TRUE Christians today, which group of people are really doing this today world wide and advocating this, following this example?

&quot:Satan&quot: is the angel that fell from Gods Grace. He was Proud and Vain…St. Michael the Arch Angel battled Satan and Satan’s followers and cast him out of Heaven. He (Satan) still wants us to join him. He wants our soul. Like St Michael we will fight him with the help of The Father, Son &amp: Holy Spirit. Each day we are in a fight for our soul. Can we as Human Beings resist Satans temptations? No…not always… we fall…but, we get up, brush our seat off and ask God (pray) for forgivness and strength to get us through the next battle. We are blessed because we believe (Faith)…ask about Doubting Thomas. If my beliefs were Satan never existed I would still believe in my God. My Love for God has nothing to do with &quot:Satan or Fear&quot:. Yes, I do get great satisfaction when I battle Satan and WIN!!! It makes me humble as Gods servent. If your not for God then your Against him…nothing hard about that.

I applaude all believers for serving their God in their teachings. After all there is only one God…I beleive we serve him the way he wants us to (different Religions).

&quot:He’s kept it in business all these years…&quot:

That’s another one of LaVey’s classic little digs at Christianity. I don’t agree with everything the guy says, but he know just how to twist the knife just enough, doesn’t he? He’s got a little grain of truth here that can make the believers a wee bit uncomfortable. Atheists are by nature going to laugh at the irony of the statement, and Christians are probably going to be on the defensive.

Fear is a great motivator for some, and the whole concept of the Abrahamic God vs. Satan The Evil Devil Guy definitely sells it.

Yes, she is the religious harlot spoke of in Revelation ,drunk with the blood of many,politics and religion are bed partners.The members basically read what the minister hands down to read and they don’t explore further.I would not abstain because of fear of hell as I don’t believe in it but I do believe that the violation of certain principles e.g.std’s/flashbacks, brain damage, are not quite fun d/t the consequences involved and what about those one night stands, those aren’t pleasant, actually rather droll and unpleasant when you find you can’t even have a decent conversation sober lol

Satan is the accuser. That is, he tells Christians that they are not good enough to receive salvation, while Jesus tells us that He has paid for our sins. Satan tells God’s children to be frightened about going to Hell when Jesus has told us that He will never leave us or forsake us. Satan tells us that there is no hope while Jesus tells us that our hope is in Him.

Get thee behind me Satan, you are a liar. I will do what Jesus tells me because I am God’s child, I am saved and I will obey Jesus because He is my Lord and my Savior. His ways are tried and true and He loves me.

Satan is the head of the other church.
The Bible call it Hades

Don’t go to the other door.
You should be frightened for going out of the true church because he’s waiting there to pull you

The concept of Satan is incredibly important to Christianity. It gives them enough paranoia to keep filling the pews, and gives them a convenient excuse for when bad things happen.

They excuse God, blame Satan and feel good about their relationship with a God who allows Satan to torture and inflict suffering on humanity. What they fail to process is that their God will be the one inflicting suffering on humanity for ALL TIME according to their belief, so even the existence of Satan cannot absolve God of incredibly cruel and immoral behavior.

I abstain from that stuff b/c it hurts myself and other people. It causes disfunction, disease and depression.

How can you tell me that I wouldnt if there were no threat of hell?

I myself know that I certainly would hell or no hell.

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