However, according to Scripture, If Christ has not been raised, your faith is in vain, and you are still in your sins (1 Cor. 15:17). Jesus makes clear, even before death, that it is his body that will be raised up. He promises to raise up the temple once it is destroyed. He was speaking about the temple of his body (John 2:21). After he had risen, he gives the same testimony, See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have. . . . Do you have something there to eat? (Luke 24:39, 41). Jesus insists that Thomas place his finger into his wounded side, so as to prove that he had indeed risen from the dead (John 20:27). There is no question that Jesus had truly risen from the dead. No Christian was under the impression that he was invisibly raised as Michael the Archangel, while God the Father dissolved his natural body. Such a presumption is without historical or scriptural warrant.
But Watchtower says…
According to the WTS, The man Jesus is dead, forever dead . . . (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 5, 454). We deny that he was raised in the flesh, and challenge any statement to that effect as being unscriptural (Studies, Vol. 7, 57). JesusвЂ™ fleshly body was disposed of by Jehovah God, dissolved into its constitutive elements or atoms (The Watchtower, 9-1-1953, 518). In order to convince Thomas of who he was, he used a body with wound holes (You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, 145). He was raised as an invisible spirit creature, with no physical body (Reasoning From the Scriptures, 214-215).
Such a presumption is without historical or scriptural warrant and is there any verses in the Bible that support Watchtowers position and what the Jehovah’s Witnesses teach and believe????
They don’t understand Resurrection for Resurrection is the reuniting of the body and the spirit. All man will be resurrected this is a free gift that Jesus christ gave to everybody and he was the first to rise.
When mary went to the tomb Christ body was not there because Jesus christ (Jehovah of the old testament) was resurrected on that third day his body and spirit were reunited eternally never to be separated again
A question like this comes along when people simply refuse to actually read the Bible and use a little common sense.
Consider a few things:
(1) If Jesus was raised physically, why didn’t Mary recognize him immediately when he appeared to her just outside of his tomb (John 20:14, 15)? Or why didn’t his disciples recognize him immediately when he appeared to them along the road back to Jerusalem (Luke 24:15, 16)? It took a bit of time for it to sink in to these people that it was the resurrected Jesus who was there standing and talking to them…….obviously because he was materialized in a different body than the one they remember him with. Also, if he was raised up physically…….how could he simply up and disappear after appearing to his disciples? Or how could someone in a physical body just up and appear in the middle of a group of people who were gathered in a locked room (John 20:24-29)? Obviously they could not.
(2) Jesus was a spirit creature BEFORE he came to the earth. On the earth he was completely human and his assignment was to offer up that human life as a sacrifice for all mankind. If Jesus was raised physically in the same body he died in, that would have completely negated the value of his sacrifice in the first place and would have meant he failed in his assignment. But as we know from the scriptures, Jesus did not fail. He was a spirit being before coming to the earth, and was resurrected back to that same state after he died.
(3) Is there scriptural precedent for the fact that Jesus was not raised physically and that as a spirit being he was able to take on different human forms in order to appear to people? Yes there is……..way back in the book of Genesis in the days of Noah. Angels of God (spirit creatures) took to noticing the daughters of men and what did they do? Genesis 6:2 indicates that they left their place in heaven, took on human form for the purpose of marrying and having offspring with human females. So spirit beings WERE capable of taking on human form to appear to humans. Not just in Noah’s day, but in the case of Lot, Jacob, Jesus’ human mother Mary, and others…
(4) Why else can we KNOW that Jesus was not raised physically? The Bible is very clear when it says: вЂњChrist died once for all time concerning sins .В .В .В , he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit.вЂќ (1В Peter 3:18) Humans with flesh-and-blood bodies cannot live in heaven. Of the resurrection to heavenly life, the Bible says: вЂњIt is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body. .В .В . flesh and blood cannot inherit GodвЂ™s kingdom.вЂќ (1В Corinthians 15:44-50) Only spirit persons with spiritual bodies can live in heaven. But since the apostle Thomas was able to put his hand into the hole in JesusвЂ™ side, does that not show that Jesus was raised from the dead in the same body that was nailed to the stake? No, for Jesus simply materialized or took on a fleshly body, as angels had done in the past. In order to convince Thomas of who He was, He used a body with wound holes. He appeared, or seemed to be, fully human, able to eat and drink, just as did the angels that Abraham once entertained.вЂ”Genesis 18:8: Hebrews 13:2
——- It’s very plain to see and understand that Jesus was not and could not have been raised physically. Do yourself the favor of at least staying current in trying to keep up your argument. Quoting from literature from 50, 60 years ago or more does nothing to help you.
Oli has had to resort to taking scriptures out of context and twisting them around to read differently than they actually do. Paul’s statement in 1 Corinthians does stand alone, and it still applies whether you surround yourself with the before and after verses. Bodies of flesh and blood do not enter heaven. Heaven is inhabited by spirit creatures who do NOT have physical bodies. Here a little common sense MUST come into play. In Genesis, when the angels of heaven started noticing the beauty of human females, they left their heavenly place……materialized human forms for themselves…..and when the Flood came, they discarded those human bodies to try and re-enter the spirit realm. Oli completely ignores that Bible account in his explanation. Why? Because it completely shoots down what he said, and it shoots down the ridiculous notion that Jesus was raised in a physical body….when he very obviously was not.
(EDIT) To again correct the mistaken Oli….
The resurrection of the ":righteous": is NOT solely a resurrection to heaven (which would be a spirit body, not fleshly one), but it is also a resurrection right here to the earth (which would be a physical, fleshly body). Luke 24:39 does NOT support your stand in any way. Rather YOU are calling Jesus a liar and the Bible as a whole when you refuse to accept that Jesus was raised as a spirit (1 Peter 3:18). Also when you blatantly ignore the number of Bible accounts of spirit beings coming to earth and materializing in human form to communicate with humans, you still don’t help your case any.
You gravely misunderstand the Bible when you refuse to examine it in its entirety and use some common sense.
EDIT – Perhaps it’s best to quit since I’ve already won. I have the Bible on my side, you do not. I realize it would cause you pain to have your false religious belief system crumbled around you and you’re just not ready for that. I believe you’ve made no case at all for your argument and I suspect you know that quite well.
Jesus body died and the blood was shed redeeming mankind for whosoever would believe.
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see: for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
I have yet to see the word ‘mateialize’ in a legitimate bible.
Materialization as a word and a concept is linked to the occult as is the word ‘presence’.
Because the bible says ":flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom": so Jesus couldn’t have inherited the kingdom in his flesh and blood body.