will war between Iran and Israel lead to Israel’s fall?

I don’t know, But I can tell that I am muslim that it sounds like it will since Iran in spite of hating Israel doesn’t want to get into a war with Israel. Israel feels threatened by the anti-Israel rehetoric from Iran, they are just words from Iran, words are far less threatening by themselve than actually acting upon them. Iran has greater military resources than Israel in the event of a war between these two, and plus there is talk about a war/attack on Iran by Israel, might be likely next year 2013. Also the Quran prophesizes the end of the Israel, as you all may be aware, this goes back to religion, the story of Moses and the Israelites, to make it short, Israelites were rescued out of egypt and were given numerous favors and were given redemption for their sins if they were thankful to God. But they become rebellious and unthankful and considered themselves superior over others. By the way not all Jews are descended from the Israelites, only those who have a long history in their faimly of following Hebrew/Israelite culture.

here is the Quran prophecy

We addressed the Children of Israel in the scripture: You will commit gross evil on earth, twice. You are destined to fall into great heights of arrogance.

When the first time comes to pass, we will send against you servants of ours who possess great might, and they will invade your homes. This is a prophecy that must come to pass.

Afterwards, we will give you a turn over them, and will supply you with a lot of wealth and children: we will give you the upper hand.

If you work righteousness, you work righteousness for your own good, but if you commit evil you do so to your own detriment. Thus, when the second time comes to pass, they will defeat you and enter the mosque, just as they did the first time. They will wipe out all the gains you had accomplished. {17:4-7 Children of Israel chapter}

Have you considered or acknowledged the fact that Judaism is the oldest of the Abrahamic religions or the fact it is Islam’s determination to convert all non-Muslims to Islam whether it be by voluntary conversion or &quot:by the sword&quot:? The passage quoted attests very clearly to this fact. Is it a righteous act to force others to convert? Absolutely NOT!!! Forced conversions lead to poor converts. As a Christian, I believe each individual is endowed with &quot:free will&quot: or the right to choose their religion. That said, the biggest threat to world peace or security is Iran’s nuclear capabilities since many of US military bases are within striking distance and within minutes could be destroyed before a counter attack could be initiated.

Iran’s strategy is to challenge U.S. influence while becoming &quot:the dominant power in the Middle East.&quot: &quot:Diplomacy, economic leverage, and active sponsorship of terrorist and insurgent groups&quot: are tools Iran uses to increase its regional power that runs from the Hindu Kush to the Mediterranean Sea.

Second, &quot:Iran’s conventional military capabilities continue to improve,&quot: according to the Pentagon. Iran added new ships and submarines and is expanding its bases on the Gulf of Oman, the Persian Gulf and the Caspian Sea. Earlier this year it deployed two separate surface groups to the Mediterranean Sea and Iranian ground forces conducted three large combined-arms maneuver exercises in northeastern and central Iran, a sign of a sophisticated force.

Third, the IRGC-QF is Iran’s conduit to terrorist and militant proxies such as Lebanon’s Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas. For the first time the Pentagon officially acknowledged the IRGC-QF provides money, training and equipment to Hezbollah such as &quot:a wide array of missiles and rockets&quot: capable of striking deep into Israel. The report also states Iran &quot:provides funding and possibly weapons to Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists in the Gaza strip.&quot:

Finally, the report documents Iran’s technical capabilities that could be applied to the production of nuclear weapons &quot:if the decision is made to do so.&quot: The report’s nuclear-related analysis is already well publicized elsewhere, but its analysis of Iran’s modernizing ballistic missile program is new.

Brig. Gen. Amir Ali-hajizadeh, the commander of the air force of Iran’s IRGC, boasted during the recent Great Prophet 7 missile exercise the West would not attack Iran because of its missile strength. The general’s statement is not without merit based on the Pentagon’s latest report.

The Pentagon report indicates Iran continues to grow its missile and rocket inventories and their effectiveness. The breaking news about missiles is &quot:Iran has boosted the lethality and effectiveness of existing systems with accuracy improvements and new submunition payloads.&quot: And its medium range missiles specially made to target Israel are also improving in range, lethality, and accuracy.

The Pentagon’s declassified report is important because it confirms Iran is rapidly modernizing its conventional military to threaten even sophisticated American forces to &quot:become the dominant power in the Middle East.&quot: That means time is running out on any plans to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities before the consequences of Iran’s inevitable conventional blow-back become unacceptable.

In the latest exercise, the powerful Revolutionary Guard, which controls Iran’s missile program, successfully tested upgraded versions of Iran’s medium-range Shahab-3 and Sajjil missiles, state television reported. Both can carry warheads and reach up to 1,200 miles, putting Israel, U.S. military bases in the Middle East and parts of Europe within striking distance.


Degree in History (focus Jewish studies) and Spanish, New Mexico State U. 1990

Actually, what takes place is that the antichrist arises and when he makes a peace treaty with Israel, even the USA will begin to say peace peace. This peace treaty will include allowing Israel to rebuild the temple and when the antichrist sees that the temple worship could erode his control he acquires the false prophet and after he breaks his peace treaty and captures Israel, he and the false prophet set up an idol in Jerusalem and when the people see the Satanic signs they start their own religion. However, when the antichrist breaks the peace treaty with Israel, wars break out and at the time the antichrist and the false prophet are gathering the nations to Har-magedon, they decide to and do militarily defeat the USA. It is at this time that Jesus returns and throws the antichrist and the false prophet in the lake of fire and begins reigning from Jerusalem for a 1000 years.

No in fact you are the ones who are being arrogant and stubborn. In Islam anyone who is not a Muslim is condemned to hell, in Judaism everybody goes to heaven, including Muslims, Christians, etc. Jews just expect you to respect Noachide laws: No killing, no blaspheming, no stealing, no immoral sexual intercourse, no eating from a living animal and having honest courtships to judge people. Jews do not expect people to convert, but you as any other gentile have the right to convert (though it is not easy), whereas Muslims say arrogantly that non-Muslims have chosen the wrong path. So sadly you kill under the name of God, like homosexuals, women who have the same rights as men, etc. and that is against the laws of the gentiles. You can regret and never do it again and never support this crazy ideas of killing, but I have never seen a Muslim speaking out against the number of Christians killed throughout all the Muslim world.

The thing is that the duty of the Jewish people is much greater, when you convert you are not just taking some believes, you are taking some cultural traits too. So it doesn’t matter if not all Jews descend from Israelites, the make part of their people through conversion.

Now you can say that Iran has greater military resources, but no other army trains their soldiers better than Israel, and they are being backed up by my country Colombia, USA, Canada, Australia, France, UK, Germany, the riots in Iran (because most Iranians are against their horrible Islamic regime): Turkey, South Korean… Iran will not lose the war, but their horrible regime WILL.

Now Iran supports the Hezbollah which killed many Jewish in Argentina, off course Iran wants to attack Israel and off course Israel feel threatened. Now you even said it… Israelites were kicked out from Israel. They have their rights.

It’s all just talk, a fight between those 2 would draft in all the Arab states, Russia &amp: China with Iran &amp: Western states siding with israel, its too grim to even contemplate, fingers crossed that clown Romney won’t get elected in US, Obama seems a tad less tyrannical, I guess its down to Israel in the end they are the aggressors, let’s hope they love they’re children, but to answer your question Israel will be gone forever just a hole in the earth. Peace.x

War between Iran &amp: Israel will lead to Iran being defeated quickly –

Isa 43:1 Israel, the LORD who created you says, &quot:Do not be afraid—I will save you. I have called you by name—you are mine.
Isa 43:2 When you pass through deep waters, I will be with you: your troubles will not overwhelm you. When you pass through fire, you will not be burned: the hard trials that come will not hurt you.
Isa 43:4 I will give up whole nations to save your life, because you are precious to me and because I love you and give you honor.
Isa 54:15 Whoever attacks you, does it without my consent: whoever fights against you will fall.
Isa 54:17 But no weapon will be able to hurt you: you will have an answer for all who accuse you. I will defend my servants and give them victory.&quot: The LORD has spoken.

The Arab lands have not succeeded in making Israel fall, despite their best efforts. I don’t think the Persians will either.

No Israel will not fall

quotes from your stupid book are meaningless and so are you

that’s the prophecy(Israel will fall) if you believe in that sort of thing.

Israel will exist forever!

If Israel manage to kick this one off and lord knows they’ve been gagging for it we can all kiss our @ss goodbye.

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